Rumunija svojim prvim sistemom PVO Patriot pojačava istočno krilo NATO saveza

Meni je tuzno sto oni zapravo sluze Americkim interesima, tolika zemlja a kicmu nema, nego radi ono sto joj Amerikanci kazu…jadno

@Enigma
Cim neko kupuje/saradjuje sa SAD odmah „sluzi njihovom interesu i nema kicmu“. a da nije mozda da oni uz pomoc Amerike jacaju svoje interese? To nikome nije palo na pamet…..?

Jesmo li mi „sluzili Francuskom interesu“ kada smo izbili sa vojskom na granicu danasnje Austrije i Slovenije i prisajedinili Vojvodinu? Nema bez saveznika nista, jednostavno i jednoj Britaniji trebaju, kamoli malim balkanskim drzavama.

@ID
Grcka i Turska igraju lobisticku sah partiju kod ‘vladara sudbina’ i sa time su se pomirili odavno zato su u boljoj situaciji od nas. Grci su izgubili deo Kipra zahvaljujuci Englezima i Amerima, kao sto sad podrzavaju Tursku u Siriji, tako su im dali signal da okupiraju deo Kipra 1974.
Kipar je kupio S300, ali je pod pritiskom morao da ga se odrekne i preda Grckoj vojsci u zamenu za BUK.

Nasi kazu, da imaju daleko daleko vise izgrađenih autoputeva, sta je i istina. I putevi znace za jaku mobilnost vojske. Drugo Srbija bi odresila kesu koliko sutra za S-400, imala bi 90% podraku naroda za to ali jednostavno nesme da ga kupi tj. moze da ga kupi ali bi se suocili sa perfidnim sankcijama koje nama obicnim građanima nebi bile vidne na oko, posredno bi jih osetili. U razpolozljivim tenkovima sa posadama smo sila naspram okolnih zemalja.

Dead1,
Yes. We have no tanks, but we have 3000 plus Spike missiles instead. The MLI 84M is a quite potent machine. Zimbru, the BTR80, is not bad also. Even TAB C79 is fairly good.
The frigates will be modernised and armed by Naval Group as an off-set for the 4 corvettes contract.
We will receive the first Himars system soon and with the Larom system, we have a quite good precision strike capability. The field artillery is ok also.
The NMS aquisition was announced. The Shorad and Manpads systems also.
The 2900 Iveco military contract was signed and the Iveco factory construction has started this week.
We have also the Piranha V. We have a quite good integrated air defence. The Puma Socat may be old, but it is stil ok.
Our troops are good profesionals, with great experience.
It is not very good, but not bad also. Anyway, better than you.

Tedy , MLI-84 Still has same problem of poor protection/armour as BMP-1. BTR80 & TAB 79 offer extremely limited capability.

Has the naval contract for corvettes been signed? Last I heard there was problems but that was last year.

In any case the point was not to bag out Romania bit contest the notion that Romania is some sort of regional power.

Milos,
It is true, but those people never ceased to have relations with their country. They come here often and send a lot of money regularely. I have many friends, even very close relatives, who live in US, France, Canada, Italy, Spain, who never stopped their relations with Ro. By contrary. We go there very often.

@Tedy- we have similar situation in Serbia, I am not putting Romania down, just so you know. I get pissed off at my countrymen that get to praise what others are doing while self-hating whatever goes on in Serbia. There are some processes that are pretty common both in Serbia and Romania that my countrymen do not notice- we both have large number of people leaving country, corruption, bad standard of living, etc etc. At one point of time I had more friends living abroad than i Serbia, so I understand what are you saying.
TT- druze, ako hoces dacu ti ekonomsku analizu i kretanje plata u Rumuniji i Srbiji od 2007. godine naovamo. Rumunija je mnogo veca zemlja od nas, sa 3 puta vise stanovnika, i nekim resursima koje mi nemamo kao sto je nafta, npr. Na konto 1999. i podrske NATO agresije su expresno usli u EU, bez da su stvarno sproveli reforme. Postavili su rekord za sredstva koja su nestala iz EU fondova, npr, bili su i pod istragom. A sto se tice plate- na papiru samo je malo veca nego u Srbiji. Cinjenicno stanje da smo mi u padu od 2007. do 2014., dok su oni porasli nekih 20%. Mislim da im je standard bolji nego kod nas, posto mi imamo oko 40-45% populacije koja radi za minimalac, ili u rangu 200-250evra. Ali nit su oni cvecke nit smo mi katastrofa u poredjenju s njima.

@Tedy
Russia invests a lot of money in media propaganda in Serbia(not saying the US doesn’t).
I was once part of that “tribe” now I realise that it’s mostly suggestive, cheap BS based on some false pretexts. That’s where a lot of these “opinions” are coming from.

You should see some DNC bots in Serbia too. Some even claim that depleted uranium is heathy….

Andrija,
I did, my friend. I did.
Very interesting indeed.

Tucano,
Russians are very good diplomats, but extremely pragmatic also.
Their diplomatic language is well known.

Tedy
fair enough.
Even if I can’t understand this reasoning vs the magnitude of a danger. With great respect to you, I’ll live it here. Having a great sadness and worries. Hopefully, everything will be OK..

@Tucano
You’re ignoring crucial facts.
First of all, the USSR had a „nog aggression“ pact with Nazi Germany. In a joint effort, they divided Poland, annexed the Baltic countries, and from 1939 all throughout WW2, tried and miserably failed to conquer Finnland. Upon annexation, they enforced a brutal repression campaign trough NKVD efforts. Up until Barbarosa, they called Hitler’s war in Europe „a bourgeoisie war led by the English“ whatever that means, all the while supplying the Third Reich with crude oil, lubricants, fuel, etc.

You may say that countries like Hungary deserved oppression because they were „Fascist“, but all of their communist resistance leaders that actually spent the war in their country, fighting, were, upon taking control replaced with „Moscow communists“ who spent the entirety od the war in an office in Russia because they would be better servants of Moscow! And what about Chezoslovakia, Poland?

You see, the USSR and Russia, are not „all innocent“ like most naive people in Serbia think. I’m not saying they are any worse than other global superpowers, in fact, they are certainly much better than China, but you have to give those events some historical context and accuracy, not just regurgitate what you were told. Any global superpower has it’s interests and uses smaller countries, especially Russia.

Maybe if NATO didn’t expand eastward, Russia wouldn’t have felt threatened? But maybe if Russia didn’t invade Georgia and later Ukraine(not saying they shouldn’t have, that was, in my opinion, a good geopolitical move for them), that the rest of Europe wouldn’t be so alarmed. Maybe if the USSR made better foreign policy decisions, eastern Europe wouldn’t feel that much mistrust in modern-day Russia? Who knows.

While I’m hoping for much better US-Russia relationships, this decision made by Romania is clearly made from a security standpoint first.

Russias, any superpower’s, guarantees are worthless so feel they need the US and NATO to be secure. Maybe they are wrong, but maybe they are right. All that’s certain is that they are doing much better now then before.

@Tedy
Sorry, Tedy. I just got upset with the number of Serbian people who like Russia more than our natural allies like Romania, Greece, hell even more than Serbia! So I had to change my nick to Srbofil to express that I like my nation more than any other, especially semi-communist Russia, who like every empire on earth, has conflicting interests. I’m not mad at them, they’re doing what’s in their best interests, I actually like Russian culture, their history, what they historically meant to us, I’m just mad at the fact that a lot of people are brainwashed into putting Russian in front of their own interests.

The fact remains they did positive things for us, but they also did a lot of negatives, and usually, in practice, are not very honest, brotherly, nor friendly like their media proclaims. Just ask people who work in „our“(Russian owned) oil and gas company, or had any business with the Russian gov. as of late And even diplomatically they tried blackmailing us numerous times. So yeah, Srbofil it is…..